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NTSB releases facts from Hoboken; weekend subway changes

by Benjamin Kabak

As New Jersey Transit gears up to reopen Hoboken for some trains on Monday and the agency prepares for its first board meeting in months, the National Transportation Safety Board has issued the first of what will be many reports on the recent train crash. The initial press release is simply a bullet point list of facts the NTSB has discerned from data recorders and videos of the crash. We know the train was going 21 mph when it collided with the bumper. We know the train had been going 8 mph approximately 38 seconds before the crash, and we know the throttled shifted from idle to 4. The NTSB has not yet provided any analysis, and it is premature to speculate on the causes of the crash yet. I’ll have more as we know more.

Now, the services advisories for this weekend’s subway trips:


From 11:30 p.m. Friday, October 7 to 5:00 a.m. Monday, October 10, 2 trains are suspended in both directions between 96 St and Wakefield-241 St. Take 45 trains and free shuttle buses instead. Free express and local shuttle buses provide alternate service between 96 St and 149 St-Grand Concourse. Transfer between 4/5 trains and free shuttle buses at 149 St-Grand Concourse.


From 11:30 p.m. Friday, October 7 to 5:00 a.m. Monday, October 10, 3 service is suspended. Take 24 trains and free shuttle buses instead. 2 service operates between Flatbush Av-Brooklyn College and 96 St. 4 service operates all weekend between Woodlawn and New Lots Av, making local stops in Brooklyn. Free shuttle buses operate between 96 St and 148 St. Transfer between free shuttle buses and 2 trains at 96 St. Transfer between 2 and 4 trains at Nevins St or Franklin Av.


From 11:30 p.m. Friday, October 7 to 5:00 a.m. Monday, October 10, 4 service operates to/from New Lots Av. 4 trains will run local in Brooklyn.


From 11:30 p.m. Friday, October 7 to 5:00 a.m. Monday, October 10, 5 trains are suspended in both directions between Eastchester-Dyre Av and E 180 St. Free shuttle buses operate all weekend between Eastchester-Dyre Av and E 180 St, making all 5 line station stops. Transfer between trains and free shuttle buses at E 180 St.


From 3:45 a.m. Saturday, October 8 to 10:00 p.m. Sunday, October 9, Pelham Bay Park-bound 6 trains run express from Parkchester to Pelham Bay Park.


From 3:45 a.m. Saturday, October 8 to 10:00 p.m. Sunday, October 9, Main St-bound 7 trains run express from 74 St-Broadway to Willets Point.


From 6:45 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. Saturday, October 8, and Sunday, October 9, Main St-bound 7 trains run express from Queensboro Plaza to 74 St-Broadway.


From 11:45 p.m. Friday, October 7 to 5:00 a.m. Monday, October 10, A trains are suspended in both directions between 168 St and Inwood-207 St. Take 1 trains and free shuttle buses instead. 1 trains make nearby stops between 168 St and 207 St. Free shuttle buses operate along two routes: On Broadway, between 168 St and 207 St, making stops at 175 St, 181 St, 190 St, and Dyckman St, and also on Fort Washington Av, between 168 St and 190 St, making stops at 175 St and 181 St. Transfer between trains and shuttle buses at 168 St.


From 11:45 p.m. Friday, October 7 to 5:00 a.m. Monday, October 10, A trains run via the F line in both directions between W 4 St-Wash Sq and Jay St-MetroTech.


From 12:01 a.m. Saturday, October 8 to 5:00 a.m. Monday, October 10, A trains run local in both directions between W 4 St-Wash Sq and 59 St-Columbus Circle.


From 12:01 a.m. Saturday, October 8 to 5:00 a.m. Monday, October 10, A trains run local in both directions between 168 St and 145 St.


From 6:30 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. Saturday, October 8, and Sunday, October 9, C trains are suspended in both directions between 145 St and 168 St. Take the A instead.


From 6:30 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. Saturday, October 8, and Sunday, October 9, C trains run via the F line in both directions between W 4 St-Wash Sq and Jay St-MetroTech.


From 5:45 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Saturday, October 8, and Sunday, October 9, Norwood-205 St bound D trains skip Bay 50 St and 25 Av.


From 11:45 p.m. Friday, October 7 to 5:00 a.m. Monday, October 10, E trains are rerouted via the F line in both directions between 21 St-Queensbridge and W4 St-Wash Sq. Free shuttle buses run between Court Sq-23 St and 21 St-Queensbridge, stopping at Queens Plaza.


From 11:45 p.m. Friday, October 7 to 7:00 a.m. Sunday, October 9, and from 11:45 p.m. Sunday, October 9 to 5:00 a.m. Monday, October 10, Manhattan-bound E trains run express from 71 Av to the 21 St-Queensbridge F station.


From 11:45 p.m. Friday, October 7 to 5:00 a.m. Monday, October 10, Manhattan-bound E trains skip Briarwood and 75 Av.


From 11:45 p.m. Friday, October 7 to 5:00 a.m. Monday, October 10, Manhattan-bound F trains skip Sutphin Blvd, Briarwood and 75 Av.


From 5:45 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Saturday, October 8, J trains are suspended in both directions between Hewes St and Broad St. Take 46f trains and/or free shuttle buses. For service to/from Manhattan, consider using ac or l via transfer at Broadway Junction.


From 6:45 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Saturday, October 8, M trains are suspended in both directions between Myrtle Av and Essex St. Take the J/L and/or free shuttle buses instead. Free shuttle buses provide alternate service between Hewes St and Essex St, stopping at Marcy Av. Transfer between J trains and buses at Hewes St. For direct service to/from Manhattan, use the L.


From 5:45 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. Saturday, October 8, and Sunday, October 9, Coney Island-Stillwell Av bound N trains run express from Astoria Blvd to Queensboro Plaza.


From 6:30 a.m. to 12:00 midnight Saturday, October 8, and Sunday, October 9, Manhattan-bound R trains run express from 71 Av to Queens Plaza.


From 12:01 a.m. Saturday, October 8 to 6:00 a.m. Monday, October 10, the 42 St Shuttle operates overnight.

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3 comments

Larry Littlefield October 8, 2016 - 10:14 am

“We know the train had been going 8 mph approximately 38 seconds before the crash, and we know the throttled shifted from idle to 4.”

Sounds as if the plan was to go to 1 and the throttle was shifted too far. Perhaps the operator was looking out, not down at what he was doing, and zoned out.

In any event, there has to be a fix to prevent that from happening. With all this talk of collision avoidance and driverless cars, in the chaos of the roadway, how come it isn’t easy to do this with trains?

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pete October 8, 2016 - 1:58 pm

There is ATC, but it takes 6 seconds of an alarm sounding after an overspeed before brakes are automatically applied. The speed limit was “restricted” there, which is 15 mph IIRC.

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jonemartin January 23, 2024 - 3:27 am

NTSB is the National Transportation Safety Board, they release some facts about HOBOKEN transport. We can come to know by reading this post.

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